Convicted child sex abuser Ghislaine Maxwell has smeared Prince Andrew’s accuser Virginia Giuffre, claiming allegations she made against the Duke could not possibly be true, in part because “he’s so English.”
In transcripts of her Justice Department interview released on Friday, the 63-year-old felon tried to discredit the explosive claims Giuffre made over the years regarding Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking networks. She is heard saying “what’s a bigger word than bulls---?” and cackling with her eagerness to attack the dead woman.
Giuffre died by suicide in April of this year, so cannot contest Maxwell’s version of events. The DOJ dropped pending perjury charges against Maxwell after her conviction for sex trafficking in 2021.
Giuffre, born Virginia Roberts, lit a fire under the Epstein scandal in 2011, bringing it out of the Florida courts and into the international spotlight when she alleged that she had been sexually assaulted by the British royal when she was trafficked for sex by Epstein and his pimp Maxwell. Her astonishing revelations turned Prince Andrew into Britain’s most tarnished royal.
Giuffre had said that Maxwell hired her as a masseuse for Epstein after meeting her at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club, but that the couple then made her a sex slave, pressuring her into gratifying not only the disgraced financier but also his friends and associates.
One of them, Giuffre testified, was Prince Andrew, with whom she claimed to have had sex numerous times when she was 17 and 18—including in Maxwell’s London home.
However, in her controversial interview with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, Maxwell said that the idea that Andrew could have had sex in her London home, as claimed, was “so mind-blowingly not conceivable to me.”
Part of the reason, she told Blanche, was because her house was small, as was the bath where one of the alleged sex acts took place.
“So you think it’s kind of logistically and physically not something that could have happened?” Blanche asked her, according to DOJ transcripts released on Friday.
“Well, there’s that,” she replied, before adding a second bizarre reason: “He’s so English. He’s so—he had a tie on.”
“Where she says that they had relations in a bathroom, I—first of all, the bath is an old Victorian bath,“ she said. ”I could—I’m quite—quite small, it’s tight for me. I put my brother in there to see what would happen. And it looks like a blivet, which is a sausage in like a very tight skin.”
During the interview, Maxwell also sought to discredit the infamous photo that came to symbolize Giuffre’s case against the Duke.
The photo was taken in 2001 and shows Andrew with his arm around the then 17-year-old’s waist, and Maxwell beaming to one side.
It also features a man, said to be Epstein, hidden behind the camera clicking the shutter but obscured by the flash’s reflection in the window.
However, Maxwell told Blanche that she believed the photo was doctored and that she was not even sure that the pair knew each other at all.
“I’m not,” she told Blanche, Trump’s former personal lawyer.
“But what I can absolutely, categorically say is that I never, at any time, set Andrew up to have relations with her or any other human being ever. And I can categorically state that her characterization of whatever may or may not have happened, could—physically would just no. And plus, I was in the country, so all of that’s just not conceivable.”
Her family had tried making similar claims about the photo after her conviction—but the prince himself paid Giuffre millions before her suicide, without admitting liability. He also avoided traveling to the United States where the FBI could have sought to question him, a threat that was lifted by Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel in July, when they announced that the Epstein investigation was closed.
Epstein died in a Manhattan jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges. Maxwell was convicted in 2021 and sentenced to 20 years in jail for helping Epstein recruit and abuse underage girls.
Giuffre, who had become an advocate of justice for survivors of sex trafficking, died by suicide at her home outside Perth, Australia, where she had moved after marrying. She left two teenage children.
She had separately sued Prince Andrew in a United States court, claiming they had sex in London when she was 17 and a minor under U.S. law. He settled the lawsuit at considerable cost, paid for by his mother Queen Elizabeth, sparing him the public humiliation of a trial.
The prince, however, was not spared revulsion and the removal of almost all of his royal privileges by his brother, King Charles. The blows escalated this month with the publication of a new biography of the prince by the British historian Andrew Lownie, which contained multiple allegations of sexual depravity and financial corruption by Queen’s Elizabeth’s second son. Prince Andrew has not addressed the book, which claims he used Thai prostitutes in an orgy and passed sex workers to other men, traded on his royal connections and was a sex addict so twisted that Epstein himself said, “We are both serial sex addicts.
“From the reports I’ve got back from the women we’ve shared, he’s the most perverted animal in the bedroom. He likes to engage in stuff that’s even kinky to me—and I’m the king of kink!”
The disclosure of Maxwell’s denials are part of the way in which Epstein’s acts and social networks have come back to haunt not just Andrew but Trump, who has spent weeks unsuccessfully attempting to kill the issue.
But the transcripts—which were released unexpectedly on Friday afternoon—effectively let the president off the hook amid questions about his relationship with the disgraced financier.
“Did you ever hear Mr. Epstein or anybody say that President Trump had done anything inappropriate with masseuses or with anybody in your world?” Blanche asked Maxwell.
“Absolutely never, in any context,” Epstein’s former accomplice said.
After talking to Blanche, Maxwell was moved to a lower security prison—and the president still hasn’t ruled out pardoning her.
This has enraged Epstein’s victims and their families, including Giuffre’s, who said in a statement last month: “It is with horror and outrage that we object to the preferential treatment convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell has received.
“Ghislaine Maxwell is a sexual predator who physically assaulted minor children on multiple occasions, and she should never be shown any leniency.”
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