Retired pro wrestler Hulk Hogan made a crude spitting gesture towards the floor as he likened Vice President Kamala Harris to a scripted “bad actress” during former president Donald Trump’s crazed MAGA carnival at Madison Square Garden on Sunday. Some media outletsspeculated Hogan, 71, was making a boorish “Hawk Tuah” oral sex joke, referencing the phrase coined by viral sensation turned podcaster Haliey Welch. (Welch said in July that she doesn‘t support Trump: “It’s a no from me.”) During his storied wrestling career, Hogan also spit down on things in the ring—a USSR flag, for example—and the gesture could simply have been a flourish unconnected to the “Hawk Tuah” meme. Hogan, real name Terry Bollea, is at least aware of Welch’s existence, as the two crossed paths backstage at an event in July.