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The guardrails that were meant to keep executive power in check are all gone now—and President Donald Trump knows it.
Over the weekend, Trump appeared to imply that he was willing to break the law to fulfill his goal of upending the federal government.
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For The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy, the post was a clear indication that Trump knows nothing can stop him now.
“I think we’ve all lost track of how many laws have been broken by this administration, how many precepts of the Constitution have been completely shredded,” Levy said. “The guardrails just seem to be gone—completely gone.”
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Moodie said Trump was emboldened to make big moves after the Supreme Court ruled in July that he enjoys some immunity from criminal prosecution.
“He knows that everything that he does from here on out is not going to be considered illegal because, one, ain’t nobody checking him,” she said. “And two, even if it were to make it up to the Supreme Court, they’ve already given him the powers of a king and everyone around him just sits around at his feet waiting on a pardon.”
Plus! Virginia Kase Solomón, CEO of pro-democracy advocacy group Common Cause, joined the show to discuss how they’ve been fighting back against efforts by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency to reshape the federal government.
Then, Wired senior politics editor Leah Feiger talks about the magazine’s string of scoops on DOGE, including a shocking reveal of the young goons running Musk’s cost-cutting task force.
Listen to this full episode of The New Abnormal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon and Stitcher.